Freedom Over Dictatorship: Our Call For Change

[_Hayden_]

I speak here today to shed light on a fundamental truth that has shaped the course of history: the inseparable bond between freedom and democracy. For centuries, the majority has suffered under the weight of oppression, deprived of their right to self-governance. However, it is through the tireless efforts of social movements that the world has witnessed transformative change, and it is in this spirit that we find ourselves at a critical juncture. In the 19th and 20th centuries, social movements emerged across the globe, shaking the foundations of societal norms and challenging oppressive systems. These movements fought for the emancipation of individuals, the recognition of human rights, and the establishment of democratic ideals. They sought to dismantle structures that held power in the hands of a few, paving the way for a more equitable and just society. Following their great examples, in 2021, a remarkable shift occurred within our community, as our pro-democracy movements began to take shape. The30s, now New The30s, led the charge for freedom and democracy within the community. They rejected the notion of an authoritative regime where Moderators and Admins held inconsolable power over the community, waging change against AlwaysClassic and their old, damaging ways. Instead, they championed the rights of individuals, striving for inclusivity, transparency, and the empowerment of all Members, Conference, Moderators and Owners. Building upon these movements of the past and present, the Classical Freedom Alliance, or CFA, was established in 2023. Comprising of respected servers such as Cube Igloo Cafe, New The30s, PopBob Anarchy Server, and The Winters, the CFA embodies the spirit of change and progress. Its formation signifies a collective commitment to preserving the legacy of those who fought for freedom and democracy in the past.

To the Moderators and Admins of ClassiCube servers today, I implore you to consider the significance of this moment. By entering your server into the CFA, you have the opportunity to transcend the limitations of a dictatorship-like governance structure. Embracing freedom and democracy within your community will not only empower your members but also serve as a beacon against discrimination and oppression that persists elsewhere. For so long, the establishments have continued to try and regain their former grasp over their power, and deny the change that lead to our communities becoming what they are now. Let us remember that freedom and democracy are not mere abstract concepts. They are the lifeblood of progress and the embodiment of human dignity. As we stand united under the banner of the CFA, let us work tirelessly to ensure that these ideals flourish, not only within our online communities, but also throughout the world.

The struggles of the past have taught us that freedom and democracy are intertwined, indivisible, and paramount to the progress of humanity. Our community has witnessed the birth of movements for the pursuit of the working people, the formation of the CFA, and now stands at a crucial crossroads. Together, let us forge a future where freedom and democracy prevail, where discrimination is confronted, and where every individual has the opportunity to thrive.

Thank you for your attention, and may the torch of freedom and democracy continue to illuminate our path forward. Power to the people!

[Edward_great]

yeah the moderators are to dictator like too many meaningless rules like oh not you cant say one word its not allowed.

[koy]

you are fucking BASED. you could make inevitable history just by this post. power to the people

[catgirl]

I'd absolutely love being overthrown on a server I put hours of work into and having to ask every time I'd want to ban a player. Sign me up.

 

[_Hayden_]

You've completely misunderstood the point of the CFA. Our alliance is there to guarantee rights to the regular players (the Members, "Guests"), the Moderators and Admins alike. You are not "overthrown" by the CFA, rather through a democratic process will your server enter the CFA, and under the guidance of democracy will it contribute to the community. You certainly don't have to "ask" every time you want to ban someone. Again, the CFA encourages unity through independence from tyrannical administrations, and Servers Forming the Alliance have the right to rule by their own jurisdiction aided by the CFA, not ruled by it.

[catgirl]

99% of guests know nothing about running servers other than freebuilds,  why should I let them vote on stuff they will never understand? Why should I let them vote on anything? This is my server. No random should own it just because 5000 people just clicked the first reaction (There was actually a very cool experiment for this in the Dank Memer community, most people clicked the first available vote, even if it'd be giving all of their money away.)? Oh wait! In the CFA spec, there's the "not limited to" part! And the definition of ownership is not clarified! I guess it's just everyone with the rank of Owner! Welp, there goes the rank name. Welcome your new Overlord, players of John's 5437239732th freebuild hosted on eddynet! You will vote only on the things that I want to and that's.... drumroll please.... Whether we should use the development build of this plugin or the 100% matching stable build? Voila, that's my tutorial how to keep the ussr... I meam the CFA banner and have no changes done to your server. Love that one little exploit.

 

John's freebuild is now CFA approved ✅

P.S. nether von adjsksqs

 

[Pear]

31 minutes ago, _Hayden_ said:

under the guise of democracy

So it's not democratic at all, in practice?

[_Hayden_]

23 minutes ago, Pear said:

So it's not democratic at all, in practice?

Sorry, wrong choice of words. Under the guidance of democracy, I should say. We are guided by democracy to make our communities better.

29 minutes ago, catgirl said:

99% of guests know nothing about running servers other than freebuilds,  why should I let them vote on stuff they will never understand? Why should I let them vote on anything? This is my server. No random should own it just because 5000 people just clicked the first reaction (There was actually a very cool experiment for this in the Dank Memer community, most people clicked the first available vote, even if it'd be giving all of their money away.)? Oh wait! In the CFA spec, there's the "not limited to" part! And the definition of ownership is not clarified! I guess it's just everyone with the rank of Owner! Welp, there goes the rank name. Welcome your new Overlord, players of John's 5437239732th freebuild hosted on eddynet! You will vote only on the things that I want to and that's.... drumroll please.... Whether we should use the development build of this plugin or the 100% matching stable build? Voila, that's my tutorial how to keep the ussr... I meam the CFA banner and have no changes done to your server. Love that one little exploit.

 

John's freebuild is now CFA approved ✅

P.S. nether von adjsksqs

 

The essence of the CFA is to provide the Members ("Guests") to rule the server in which they form the majority of. Not the Moderators, not the Owner. The Members have the right to determine the future of their server. Not to say that Moderators have less rights, of course. Everyone should have equal rights. You aren't forced to join the CFA, rather it is a mutual decision that benefits you, your community, the rest of the community and everyone as a whole. The Members, the Conference, and the Moderators propose ideas to the Owner which must (keyword, must) be voted on if such garners enough support. Yes, the Owner can choose what gets voted on, but he cannot suppress what the community wants either. Otherwise, that is not a functioning democratic system, and if the server is a Server Forming the Alliance, its membership will be revoked. Dank Memer does not accurately represent our community and their intelligence to use basic voting powers. Again, that's Dank Memer for goodness' sake. As for "Ownership," that is ridiculous. Servers clearly know who is and isn't their Owner, and they should vote on it accordingly, along with the Moderators. Again, the CFA is a mutual alliance, not a one-way system. I'm not forcing you to partner with the CFA.

As for the last bit, that's just silly. In no way does the working people who formed this alliance as a result of the overthrowing of the oligarchs want their alliance and its white cross over a red banner to resemble the USSR or any totalitarian socialist state of the 20th century. That's not democracy, nor freedom.

[catgirl]

Not reading that ChatGPT generated essay, do you have any clear reason to make me join the Cookie Freak Antidotes?

[UmbreoClaw]

Hey there,

I wanted to offer a different perspective on the idea that freedom and democracy are inseparable. While it's true that social movements have fought against oppression and pushed for democratic ideals, it's important to remember that freedom and democracy don't always go hand in hand.

Sure, democracy is supposed to protect the rights and freedoms of individuals, but let's face it, it doesn't always work out that way. In some cases, democratic systems have failed to safeguard the rights of minority groups, with the majority imposing its will and marginalizing others. We've seen this happen throughout history and even today, where democratic governments violate the rights of certain groups.

And here's the thing, freedom goes beyond just democracy. It encompasses a whole range of individual liberties like freedom of speech, thought, and association. These freedoms can exist independent of a democratic system and can be protected or violated regardless of the type of government in place.

It's also worth mentioning that not all successful societies have embraced democracy. There are examples of countries that have achieved stability, economic development, and respect for individual rights without following a democratic model. Authoritarian or technocratic systems, while lacking democratic principles, have proven successful in some cases.

Lastly, joining an alliance like the Classical Freedom Alliance (CFA) doesn't automatically guarantee empowerment and progress. While the intentions behind the CFA may be good, it's important to consider the potential drawbacks. Sometimes, collective movements can stifle dissenting voices or enforce conformity, which goes against the very principles of freedom and individual rights.

In a nutshell, freedom and democracy aren't always joined at the hip. Democracy doesn't always ensure freedom, and freedom can exist without a democratic system. So, it's crucial to think critically and not assume that collective movements or alliances will automatically lead to greater individual liberties.

Hope this gives you another perspective to consider. Let's keep the conversation going!

[_Hayden_]

It's not "ChatGPT generated." Again, the CFA is a mutual alliance; if you're not interested, we aren't either.

4 minutes ago, UmbreoClaw said:

Hey there,

I wanted to offer a different perspective on the idea that freedom and democracy are inseparable. While it's true that social movements have fought against oppression and pushed for democratic ideals, it's important to remember that freedom and democracy don't always go hand in hand.

Sure, democracy is supposed to protect the rights and freedoms of individuals, but let's face it, it doesn't always work out that way. In some cases, democratic systems have failed to safeguard the rights of minority groups, with the majority imposing its will and marginalizing others. We've seen this happen throughout history and even today, where democratic governments violate the rights of certain groups.

And here's the thing, freedom goes beyond just democracy. It encompasses a whole range of individual liberties like freedom of speech, thought, and association. These freedoms can exist independent of a democratic system and can be protected or violated regardless of the type of government in place.

It's also worth mentioning that not all successful societies have embraced democracy. There are examples of countries that have achieved stability, economic development, and respect for individual rights without following a democratic model. Authoritarian or technocratic systems, while lacking democratic principles, have proven successful in some cases.

Lastly, joining an alliance like the Classical Freedom Alliance (CFA) doesn't automatically guarantee empowerment and progress. While the intentions behind the CFA may be good, it's important to consider the potential drawbacks. Sometimes, collective movements can stifle dissenting voices or enforce conformity, which goes against the very principles of freedom and individual rights.

In a nutshell, freedom and democracy aren't always joined at the hip. Democracy doesn't always ensure freedom, and freedom can exist without a democratic system. So, it's crucial to think critically and not assume that collective movements or alliances will automatically lead to greater individual liberties.

Hope this gives you another perspective to consider. Let's keep the conversation going!

How are these freedoms guaranteed? What "successful" societies work off authoritarian regimes? These are the questions I am asking.

[UmbreoClaw]

6 minutes ago, _Hayden_ said:

It's not "ChatGPT generated." Again, the CFA is a mutual alliance; if you're not interested, we aren't either.

How are these freedoms guaranteed? What "successful" societies work off authoritarian regimes? These are the questions I am asking.

Hey there,

Those are great questions you've raised! Let's dive into them. When it comes to guaranteeing freedoms, it's a multi-faceted process. In democratic societies, we often see a combination of factors at play. Things like the rule of law, constitutional frameworks, an independent judiciary, and respect for human rights all come into play to safeguard individual freedoms. Additionally, having strong democratic institutions like a free press, an active civil society, and effective checks and balances can go a long way in upholding those freedoms.

Now, moving on to your second point about successful societies under authoritarian regimes, it's definitely a tricky subject. The idea of success can vary depending on the context and what we prioritize. There are countries like China and Singapore that have achieved remarkable economic growth and stability under authoritarian rule. However, it's important to note that these regimes often come with limitations on political freedoms, freedom of speech, assembly, and other individual rights. So, while they may have achieved success in some areas, the overall state of individual liberties may be compromised.

The bottom line is that finding the right balance between freedom and governance is an ongoing debate. Different societies take different approaches, and it's crucial to weigh the pros and cons of each system. It's important to assess the impact on individual freedoms and rights while considering the broader outcomes and goals of a society.

I hope this sheds some light on your questions! If there's anything else you'd like to discuss or if you have further queries, feel free to let me know. I'm here to keep the conversation going.

[SpaceDot]

I can't think of any servers that could benefit from this.

[icanttellyou]

I'd rather stick with a stable model I know is tried and true (which is basically that I'm the only owner, and moderators are only added to the team by me and only me) and not have a democratic system which could possibly lead to negative feedback, decisions or generally bad ideas being pushed and advocated for by the players that think they are good for only them and not the long time players. I additionally don't want to lose ownership of my server at times and making it so some rando by the name of Emily4122+ who may have crashed my server in the past or even is related with a banned CC community member own MY server.

[matthilde]

holy crap are we larping again

just stop already lmfao

[koy]

After careful consideration on the civil and well-constructed post, I am currently at a Neutral state between the idea of this "CFA" thing, but i definitely agree more with the ones whom disagree, but not completely.

[matthilde]

instead of pretending to be some kind of great activist for political change in some tiny community that does not even care about that. go outside, do some real political activist idk, you have the potential to do so. call me a nazi if you want, you know i'm right.

but you do you, do your small coalition of servers with an e-nation twist, pretend to be some kind of great liberator.

making a discord server and destroying a swastika in a minecraft server while pretending you do actual political activism is so hilarious and tells a lot about you.

don't even bother replying to me i know your answer already. i'm tired of seeing this kind of people online.

[_Hayden_]

Replying to SpaceDot and icanttellyou, this system has already been on trial for just about two years in several servers in our community, so I can say our model means the people are happier, the server is freer, and there are less servers popping up overall because everyone is united in a democratic system. I did a census yesterday (which is why I was joining so many servers), and I found that 4 in 69 servers prohibit languages other than English from being spoken in public chat. That's 69 "actual" servers (not including ones who haven't even changed the server name or rules) on the ClassiCube server list. Only about 20 or 30 of those maximum are actually worth playing. Don't you think that'd be a whole lot less if the community was more united? And on the Ownership thing, no, you don't just give a random person Owner. It is through a democratic process in which you hold a referendum that players can vote on who they think is suitable for Owner. Then, an Owner will be sworn in with limited powers, A.K.A. they can't delete your server, they can't change the config or mess up any settings, etc... The point of the Owner is to hold the referendums for important issues that the people are campaigning for, not to be given unrestricted power like the Owner has on most models to date.

Replying to matthilde, I'm not pretending to be anything. I know that this isn't "real" activism, of course, it's just Minecraft Classic. And yes, the community does care, just maybe not your little secluded area. Our communiity risen up against the old system and built a new one in its place, without discrimination. On the Great Liberation, this was given the name because it was a landmark event in seeing how the community reacted to fascist and reactionary propaganda. No, it wasn't literally destroying the swastikas that was the "Liberation," it was how our community banded together to show that we care about this. So no, you shouldn't be tired of this. And if you really are tired of change, you can join those conservative Discord servers. I'm sure their open to inviting more reactionaries on their server.

[matthilde]

watch out your brain is decaying even further as you write those replies lol

[Toby]

The American education system is doing wonders.

People can have their own servers with their own rules without impeding on other servers with their own rules. If someone is playing on a server, you are proactively agreeing to the rules set out by the owner. if you don't like it, hop onto the next server. 

10 hours ago, _Hayden_ said:

Yes, the Owner can choose what gets voted on, but he cannot suppress what the community wants either

This is how the majority of established long-term servers are run already. 

12 hours ago, _Hayden_ said:

for the pursuit of the working people

The working class of ClassiCube have it hard, for real. 

10 hours ago, _Hayden_ said:

totalitarian socialist state of the 20th century.

The American education system is doing wonders, omegalol.

[_Hayden_]

Yes, the American education system must be doing wonders if you can't comprehend that not everyone lives in the U.S.

[SpaceDot]

I don't think that less servers popping up, is necessarily an improvement, even if you might consider them unworthy.

[_Hayden_]

I mean this by less low-quality generic freebuild servers and more well-developed, democratic and prosperous servers where the people get the say in the decisions of their community.

[MESYETI]

Just now, _Hayden_ said:

I mean this by less low-quality generic freebuild servers

RIP New The30s then

[_Hayden_]

Clearly you do not play our server enough to appreciate the quality of builds, and the great community assembled out of the ashes of violence. Our builders are like no other, our Moderators have an impenetrable yet forgiving heart that understand the needs of others and pour hours into a loving community, our Owner who has built the server from an inactive low-quality freebuild to a flourishing, vibrant community full of great maps, worlds, and myself, who is here, promoting freedom and through a thick smog of discrimination and reactionaries. No, our server is not just "another freebuild," and your characterisation of it as such tells me all I need to know about your stance on prejudice and accepting others.